There is always someone out there that just cant let things go, They should keep the cannon and be proclamed by the Gov as the official Battery of the State in perpetuity(you english majors can respell that for me later)
Seamus
"if you try to fail and succeed, what have you really done?"--quote from a former co-worker of mine
So does this mean the gun is not in the state of Vermont at this time?
I'm sure this question is being asked by more knowledgeable people than mine but is there any proof just who owns this piece? What papers does Mr. Fifield have for it? It seems to me that time quite often makes these issues murky.
My best to the 2nd VT. It's nice to see these pieces in use and they have obviously take great care of it for a long time. I hope they can continue to use it...
I'm not sure what paperwork the unit has.
That stuff was handled over 30 years ago.
I guess it all came to a head when the Capt.
got a phone call telling him that the VT guard was
coming down to pick it up & needed to know where it
was located.
Since it's in the care of the Federal Gov. for the time
being. They have juristiction.
Andy Danish
Armorer
US Naval Landing Party
"Rescuing the Army......Again"
Scary aint the word for it.......
Id like to know the true definition of "gone to hell" is as far as cannons are concerned.
Metal rusts but they have taken cannons of the sea floor that have been there for 300 years soaking in Salt water that still look like cannons. Would I advocate fireing them?No but the article I read sounds like a crusade against reenacting more than just a dispute who has a cannon, and the whole reference of monetary value keeps coming up in these cannon disputes(re: the Richmond Me legion hall)
Sounds like this Fifield guy just wanted to stir a pot before he kicked off.
Probally standard cannon loading and cleaning is tantamount to abuse to a museum director....in Ohio they have two cannons in the "official" battery of the state saw em at Mannassas145....
Seamus
They are being displayed in a museum during the winter so I can't imagine they are too far gone. The 2nd Vt. uses the gun every summer and from the pictures on the website they fire it. Well, if the gun can be fired then it can't be too far "gone to hell".
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There is always someone out
There is always someone out there that just cant let things go, They should keep the cannon and be proclamed by the Gov as the official Battery of the State in perpetuity(you english majors can respell that for me later)
Seamus
"if you try to fail and succeed, what have you really done?"--quote from a former co-worker of mine
Update !
The Watervliet Arsenal is involved now.
The 2nd VT stores the gun there over the winter, in the Arsenal Museum and they DO NOT want to loose a star exibit.
Seems there are some Federal Regs regarding historic artillery pieces.
Andy Danish
Armorer
US Naval Landing Party
"Rescuing the Army......Again"
Interesting but sad
Thanks Andy,
In regards to your update, is this the right website for the Arsenal?
http://www.wva.army.mil/
So does this mean the gun is not in the state of Vermont at this time?
I'm sure this question is being asked by more knowledgeable people than mine but is there any proof just who owns this piece? What papers does Mr. Fifield have for it? It seems to me that time quite often makes these issues murky.
My best to the 2nd VT. It's nice to see these pieces in use and they have obviously take great care of it for a long time. I hope they can continue to use it...
--
Michael Johnson
Update !
Mike,
Yes, that is the Arsenal web site.
And yes, the gun is not in VT.
I'm not sure what paperwork the unit has.
That stuff was handled over 30 years ago.
I guess it all came to a head when the Capt.
got a phone call telling him that the VT guard was
coming down to pick it up & needed to know where it
was located.
Since it's in the care of the Federal Gov. for the time
being. They have juristiction.
Andy Danish
Armorer
US Naval Landing Party
"Rescuing the Army......Again"
What a mess
I just don't even know what to say. I have all kinds of thoughts and comments. But this just looks like it will turn out nothing but ugly.
I look forward to your updates Andy...
--
Michael Johnson
2nd Vermont Update
Check their web site for the latest.
http://www.2ndvermont.org/
Andy Danish
Armorer
US Naval Landing Party
"Rescuing the Army......Again"
Those are some letters
Those are some letters there! If the Gov. doesnt side with the 2nd Vermont then there is no Heart in him that lives at the statehouse.....
Seamus
"if you try to fail and succeed, what have you really done?"--quote from a former co-worker of mine
This is scarry.It would be
This is scarry.
It would be nice if they knew what they were talking about.
http://www.reformer.com/headlines/ci_5216306
The article is full of untruths & misinformation.
Andy Danish
Armorer
US Naval Landing Party
"A fine is a tax for doing wrong.
A tax is a fine for doing well."
Scary aint the word for
Scary aint the word for it.......
Id like to know the true definition of "gone to hell" is as far as cannons are concerned.
Metal rusts but they have taken cannons of the sea floor that have been there for 300 years soaking in Salt water that still look like cannons. Would I advocate fireing them?No but the article I read sounds like a crusade against reenacting more than just a dispute who has a cannon, and the whole reference of monetary value keeps coming up in these cannon disputes(re: the Richmond Me legion hall)
Sounds like this Fifield guy just wanted to stir a pot before he kicked off.
Probally standard cannon loading and cleaning is tantamount to abuse to a museum director....in Ohio they have two cannons in the "official" battery of the state saw em at Mannassas145....
Seamus
Cogito sumere potum alterum
Can't be too bad
They are being displayed in a museum during the winter so I can't imagine they are too far gone. The 2nd Vt. uses the gun every summer and from the pictures on the website they fire it. Well, if the gun can be fired then it can't be too far "gone to hell".
--
Michael Johnson