
After a few events with the 3rd Maine Red Diamonds playing both period baseball and "town ball", we are looking for any re-enactor North or South, or any enthusiast who would be interested in starting a team to play in the spring and summer, perhaps putting together a uniform kit, with practices and games. If anyone is interested or has questions post here or email me at mbraycatch@hotmail.com
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Hey Matt, I think this is a great new addition to the living history possibilities here in the Great State of Maine. Thanks for putting so much effort and interest into this.
For those without any knowledge about what you are thinking, like me, could you provide some more details?
How often would you like to practice?
Who do you anticipate playing against?
What will the uniform be? If there is a cost what do you anticipate that cost to be?
I'm no ball player but I look forward to cheering and jeering from the sidelines! :)
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Michael Johnson
Details
As I am reading this at 1:30 am before bed (ahhh college) I will not list all the rules or other aspects, to quickly anwser:
How often would we practice: Perhaps once or twice a week in the pre season, maybe once a week durring te season?
Playing against: Any opponent from intersquad scrimmage (beat up on ourselves) or There is a baseball club called the Essex Baseball Club which has a 6 team league, google it they have a great web site with 3rd Pictures, I will attatch a link later if people want... also area softball teams or twilight league teams may be interested.
Uniform Costs and info: No clue, probably in the area of 50-100 but it will vary on custimized costs and intrest of the group on its quality like any other re-enacting gear... Certainly a GREAT christmas Idea!
Basicly, this is all a concept with MUCH room to grow, so any advice is welcome, and once a perspective list is made we will find a concensus... the oppertunity is there, we just need the guys!
Comon Mike, a straping lad such as your self, i see a future in you yet!
Town Ball
Hi,
Just wanted to know if there was any age limit to the team because I love to play ball and I might consider joining... If you could get back sometime soon that'd be great! Thanks.
Pvt. Thomas Bennett
No. 71 Co. F
Third Maine Volunteer Infantry Fife and Drum Corps
Snare Drum
Age Limit
Well Thomas, I had not thought about that, how old are you? But I would think if your old enough to re-enact you are certainly old enough to play some ball! Hopefully see you at an event soon so we can talk about it, I will be at Norlands saturday and Vets Day in Portland. Also where do you live?
Thomas, email Matt
Don't post your age online. Send Matt Bray an email, or contact him offline. I don't know how old you are either but I would like to be careful of the online security of our younger participants. People who know you will know all they need to know and people who don't know you won't care as long as you are contributing to the discussion.
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If anyone has any concerns or wants to discuss this more then pelase start a new topic.
Thanks,
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Michael Johnson
E-mail
Hi,
Thanks for the idea, I didn't think of that...
Pvt. Thomas Bennett
No. 71 Co. F
Third Maine Volunteer Infantry Fife and Drum Corps
Snare Drum
America's National Pastime
Author: Michael Aubrecht ©. Published: 07-2004. Appeared On: Baseball Almanac.
It is considered America's National Pastime. Far more than just a mere sporting event, baseball has become a major part of the American culture and has often been responsible for bringing people together in times of crisis. During war, following natural disaster and in the midst of economic hardship, the game has always provided an emotional escape for people from every race, religion and background who can collectively find solace at the ballpark. Therefore, it somehow seems fitting that the origins of modern baseball can be traced back to a divided America when the country was in the midst of a great Civil War. Despite the political and social grievances that resulted in the separation of the North and South, both sides shared some common interests such as playing baseball.
Although baseball was somewhat popular in larger communities on both sides of the Mason Dixon line, it did not achieve widespread popularity until after the war had started. The mass concentration of young men in army camps and prisons eventually converted the sport formerly reserved for "gentlemen" into a recreational pastime that could be enjoyed by people from all backgrounds. For instance, both officers and enlisted men played side by side and soldiers earned their places on the team because of their athletic talents, not their military rank or social standing. Both Union and Confederate officers endorsed baseball as a much-needed morale builder that also provided physical conditioning. After long details at camp, it eased the boredom and created team spirit among the men. Often, the teamwork displayed on the baseball diamond often translated into teamwork on the battlefield. Many times, soldiers would write of these games in letters home as they were much more pleasant to recall than the hardship of battle.
Private Alpheris B. Parker of the 10th Massachusetts wrote:
The parade ground has been a busy place for a week or so past, ball-playing having become a mania in camp. Officer and men forget, for a time, the differences in rank and indulge in the invigorating sport with a schoolboy's ardor.
Another Private, writing home from Virginia recalled:
It is astonishing how indifferent a person can become to danger. The report of musketry is heard but a very little distance from us...yet over there on the other side of the road most of our company, playing bat ball and perhaps in less than half an hour, they may be called to play a Ball game of a more serious nature.
Sometimes, games would be interrupted by the call of battle. George Putnam, a Union soldier humorously wrote of a game that was "called-early" due to the surprise attack on their camp by Confederate infantry:
Suddenly there was a scattering of fire, which three outfielders caught the brunt; the centerfield was hit and was captured, left and right field managed to get back to our lines. The attack...was repelled without serious difficulty, but we had lost not only our centerfield, but...the only baseball in Alexandria, Texas.
It has been disputed for decades whether Union General Abner Doubleday was in fact the "father of the modern game". Many baseball historians still reject the notion that Doubleday designed the first baseball diamond and drew up the modern rules. Nothing in his personal writings corroborates this story, which was originally put forward by an elderly Civil War veteran, Abner Graves, who served under him. Still, the City of Cooperstown, NY dedicated Doubleday Field in 1920 as the "official" birthplace of the organized baseball. Later Cooperstown became the home to the National Baseball Hall of Fame.
Doubleday was an 1842 graduate of West Point (graduating with A.P. Stewart, D.H. Hill, Earl Van Dorn and James Longstreet) and served in both the Mexican and Seminole wars. In 1861, he was stationed at the garrison in Charleston Harbor. It is said that it was Doubleday, an artillery officer, who aimed the first Fort Sumter guns in response to the Confederate bombardment that initiated the war. Later he served in the Shenandoah region as a brigadier of volunteers and was assigned to a brigade of Irwin McDowell's corps during the campaign of Second Manassas. He also commanded a division of the I Corps at Sharpsburg and Fredericksburg as well at Gettysburg where he assumed the command of I Corps after the fall of Gen. John F. Reynolds, helping to repel the infamous "Pickett's Charge." Strangely, his outstanding military service has been all but forgotten yet his controversial baseball legacy still lives on. Regardless of really being (or not being) the actual "inventor" of the modern version, Doubleday did apparently organized several exhibitions between Union divisions and was an apparent student and fan of the game. Many of these contests were attended by thousands of spectators and often made front-page news equal to the war reports from the field.
In 1861 at the start of the war, an amateur team made up of members of the 71st New York Regiment defeated the Washington Nationals baseball club by a score of 41 to 13. When the 71st New York later returned to the man the defenses of Washington in 1862, the teams played a rematch, which the Nationals won 28 to 13. Unfortunately, the victory came in part because some of the 71st's best athletes had been killed at Bull Run only weeks after their first game. One of the biggest attended sporting events of the nineteenth century occurred on Christmas in 1862 when the 165th New York Volunteer Regiment (Zouaves) played at Hilton Head, South Carolina with more than 40,000 troops looking on. The Zouaves' opponent was a team composed of men selected from other Union regiments. Interestingly, A.G. Mills, who would later become the president of the National League, participated in the game.
After the war ended, many men from both sides returned home to share the game that they had learned near the battlefield. Eventually organized baseball grew in popularity abroad and helped bring together a country that had been torn apart for so many years. Coincidentally, another Civil War icon, General George Armstrong Custer, was killed along with two hundred and sixty-four Union Calvary troopers after engaging the Sioux tribe at Little Big Horn the same year the first National League was established. Custer had fought at the first battle of Bull Run, distinguished himself in both the Peninsular campaign as well as Gettysburg and was selected as the Union officer to receive the Confederate flag of truce at Appomattox Courthouse. It has been reported that many members of the U.S. Calvary, most of them veterans of the Civil War, also engaged in baseball games to pass the time while protecting the western territories.
Today, over a century later, baseball is still a popular American institution and remains a testament to both "Billy Yank" AND "Johnny Reb" who laid down their muskets to pick up a ball and help establish a National Pastime.
War Games
Although early forms of baseball had already become High Society's pastime years before the first shots of the Civil War erupted at Fort Sumter, it was the mass participation of everyday soldiers that helped spread the game's popularity across the nation.
During the War Between the States, countless baseball games, originally known as "townball", were organized in Army Camps and prisons on both sides of the Mason Dixon Line. Very little documentation exists on these games and most information has been derived from letters written by both officers and enlisted men to their families on the home front. For the hundreds of pictures taken during the Civil War by photography pioneer Matthew Brady, there is only one photo in the National Archives that clearly captured a baseball game underway in the background. Several newspaper artists also depicted primitive ballgames and other forms of recreation devised to help boost troop morale and maintain physical fitness. Regardless of the lack of "media coverage", military historians have proved that baseball was a common ground in a country divided, and helped both Union and Confederate soldiers temporarily escape the horror of war.
The following table represents a few of the games that had been recorded for historical significance either by participants or observers. (For simplicity, all forms of the game including "townball" and "roundball" will be referred to as baseball.)
1862 Union
Trainees from 13th Massachusetts and 51st Pennsylvania vs. themselves. Games were played evenings on the drilling field in many training camps prior to deployment.
1862 Union
165th New York Infantry (Second Duryea’s Zouaves) vs. NY Regiment All-Star nine. Perhaps one of the most famous of all Civil War games, this one was witnessed by 40,000 troops.
1862 Union
The “Irish Brigade
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This is from a radio station in California.
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Lt. Jason Porter
29th Georgia Volunteer Infantry
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