I'm guessing this is where this topic belongs. If not I'm sure Mike will move it. But basically I'm wondering if there is an on line dating service out there for single re-enactors to meet like minded persons. I've never encountered trouble in this area as I'm a re-enacting wife but after discussing this problem with single friends in the hobby I can see there's a need to be filled. So. Does anyone have any experience in this area? Is there a site out there for single re-enactors to meet? Or is this as yet un-explored territory? I'd welcome other's thoughts on the matter.
~Miss Patti





Good God Woman!
I doubt they actually allow single women at Civil War events
Major Eric R. Reeder
CSO, 1st Division ANV, Staff
Liberty Hill Signals
2nd Lt Eric R. Reeder United States Army Corps of Topographic Engineers "Hawks and Eagles fly like Doves"
Match making more likely
I know of no web site or online location dedicated to living historians and reenactors attempting to meet and date. Though I have not explored it all and usually turn back as I approach the darker neather regions of the World Wide Web. ;)
However, I do have a thought on this matter. As I see it, the problem is where does one go to socialize and meet people these days? I was never in to the 'bar scene'. Dating at work has it's own dangers and should generally be avoided. And at a living history event when is there time for single people to meet and socialize?
When I was between marriages, I admit to eyeing other reenactors as potential dating partners. But the only time to really test those waters were at a dance or other social event. New England events don't have much opportunity for dancing.
Now I am going to get myself in trouble here. But here it goes.
I greatly enjoyed going to dances at southern, far away events, because there were southern women at them. Real southern women. I'm not being crase here. I spent a few years in high school in Virginia and discovered the following, long before I got into reenacting.
Southern ladies know how to allow a gentleman to attempt to give a lady attention. Northern ladies make if difficult for a gentleman to approach them.
This is based solely on my experience and impression. Your mileage may vary.
So Miss Patti, I might suggest that either we find a way to allow opportunity for single people to meet and socialize at events or create events to allow such opportunities. Or perhaps we need to do a little match-making. And I bet you'd be darn good at it too!
I will keep my eyes open for available single men worthy of courtship and send their names on to you. As could others. And you could work out an opportunity for one of your lady friends to meet them. I could even offer to act as a chaperone if necessary.
So now that I have stoked up the fire around the match stick you set. Let's see what others have to say.
This problem is throughout society I'm afraid. Not just in our circle. In the end my wife and mother of my child was introduced to me through a friend. We might have never met otherwise.
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Michael Johnson
I saw one once Major!
A pair of them actually. And a sight to behold I assure you...
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Michael Johnson
I was a single woman re-enactor
And it was very interesting..
It was strange , not especially good,nor was it especially bad.My primary portrayal was as a soldier,and I can definitely say that shifted my social dynamic a little bit.(The first time I came out in ladies dress,at church call,my unit ,in unison, choked on their coffee and ended up wearing it)
Im 19 days away from marrying a fellow soldier - (NO WERE NOT GETTING MARRIED IN Mass!!)And I can say that dating within the hobby was a wonderful thing.There was no having to explain to the other about why we are doing this (a common issue I had with my non re-enactor significant others) And if we were in a hectic work cycle, the event gave us the much needed down time to regroup.
I love it,I love marching shoulder to shoulder with my significant other.I love having an automatic dance partner,I love the safety of it.I love the sharing one of the most important parts of my life.
We met @ Crowne Pointe, and he was awed by the idea of a WIR.
Im thinking of ways to promote the social factor of single re-enactors,and I think,its mostly being in the right place at the right time.And being open to it.
Thoughts that Im sure will grow and shift.
Terri (Teddy's "twin" sister)
single in reenacting
Well Patti you hit the nail on the head. Maybe you and I sould get together and start a new online service. Being single I would have to think twice befor I dated any one that was not into living history or reenacting. Well that may be why my dance card is empty. I do agree that it is much easier to meet and date a gentleman down south. There are many social gatherings that allow members to interact with one anther. And I can say that my most encahanting of evenings have been spent midnight horse back riding along the line in Columbia TN. Skinny dipping in Georgia and then maybe the Confederate Ball in Alabama. Hummmmm I think an online match making for reenactors may be something of interest. We could call it where the Norh and South meet. lololol Well Who is going to "The Mill"? Looking forward to seeing ya all there. CopperHeadAnnie Single and Corset Lacer Needed
What an interesting thread!
What an interesting thread! I think the topic would make a most interesting board in itself. Although I have to admit, I only know a few single reenactors. You are defiantly right, Michael, about the dances down south and about Southern women! I have no problem with northern women having dated a few myself. But, I too, have found ladies down south to be somewhat more out going. I only speak from personal experience, as well.
I've found that the best way for singles to get to know other singles with like interests are at the big events down in Virginia. The balls and dances are an excellent meeting place. I have been taught how to do the Virginia reel a couple times by ladies from Georgia and Texas. There isn't a more fashionable couple than one who wears a dashing uniform with polished buttons and a shimmering evening gown with many hoops. I have not seen to many reenactment dances up north, however.
I haven't enjoyed the bar scene too much either. I've tried it before and it does get expensive! And there isn't too many other places in Augusta to meet up with ladies. There are a couple of bars, a book store, and Wal Mart. When you wear a wool uniform and sleep on the ground on weekends it is tough finding somebody who you have much in common with.
Yet, my lucky stars finally shined. I've been dating somebody who recently graduated from my old school, University of Maine in Farmington. I met her at Barnes N Noble a few weeks ago. Ya, it is a lame place to find a date, but it works! Plus, the store has a little Starbuck's cafe and it had a nice atmosphere for us to talk over a cafe mocha and latte. It's been awesome getting to know her since then. It would be nice for her to take a weekend off next year so I may bring her to a reenactment. If she is willing to dress period for a day then she is my perfect match!
I think that there should be a way for single reenactors to get to know each other. It is lonely being single at reenactments especially if you can't cook! For with all the married couples who reeanct together, it is proof that for many of us, it is difficult to be with someone who is not as passionate about history as we. Maybe this board should have a classifieds section? F Confederate spy seeking Union M? haha Anyway, only advice I have is to go to Virginia this spring and learn the Virginia Reel!
zacs got a girl friend! zacs
zacs got a girl friend! zacs got a girl friend!
Zac and ________ sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.........
lol
sORRY I couldnt resist....But you are right mike, If I was to find myself single again and looking for another I would head south in my search, as I have become partial to the southern woman for the multitude of reasons....
Seamus
"it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifing......nothing"
MacBeth
Zac you are right I miss
Zac you are right I miss Dixie. The hay rides will be going on down South this month and so will the Harvest Moon Balls. Oh how I wish I was in the land of cottonlololol Patti Patti I am not talking about YOUR COTTON I am talking about South Of The Mason Dixon. Zac you are right therei s no greater couple then on doing the TN waltz.
Civil war dating
Civil war dating service!
Holy cow - do you know the men would outnumber the wimminz 20 to 1! If I was alookin' fer a wimmin, I'd have to wait for Annie to date 20 GUYS before she had time to get around to me!
(She be rolling her eyes and sayin': "So many men - so little time!")
Seriously, That's an interesting area, I hear all the time: "where do you find someone to date?" Heck, once, I was in a group years ago right after I was divorced and this woman was bemoaning "Where do you find single Christian guys my age to date around here? I haven't been able to find A SINGLE ONE!"
I was sitting right next to her and thinking to myself - "Hey what am I - chopped liver?"
Anyway, I think it's attitude, attitude, attitude. That and lowering your standards A LOT (only kidding!) Really, I never had trouble finding people to date. And when I RAISED my standards substantially, I found a wonderful woman!
I was talking about this with someone recently - for all the wimminz who are complaining about where to find menz - we should tell them to stop going to the local yoga classes and Fried Green Tomatos screenings - and start going to CIVIL WAR REENACTING! There's literally TONS of menz there! And GOOD men! Not those booze soaked bums that you get in bars! (No offense for any booze-soaked members here!)
No bums here Tom
No offense taken...
Match making! I say match making is the thing to consider.
What sort of fella you looking for Annie? I'll keep my eyes and ears open.
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Michael Johnson
The secrets out
Sorry Annie. These men are just too quick. Or is that Mike's too quick? But there it is. I didn't think there would be this much interest in so little time. But it is true. It's very hard for men to meet suitable ladies up here. And it is hard for ladies to meet suitable, unattached men. Especially in civil war re-enacting. This has long been a male dominated hobby & when women finally start making a mark of their own they tend to do it as someone's wife, fiancee, girlfriend,etc. The men are either very obviously taken or they're "seperated" because their wives don't re-enact & they'd love to have a re-enecting "partner"...So the question still stands. I can say from my own small experience that on-line matchmaking services do work. At least they did for me & my husband. I can't say as they'd work for anyone else though. It sounds as if we need to either start a travel group going to southern states or start having our own sociables here in Maine. I don't think we could do it singles only though. If we did we'd get about 30 men & 2-3 ladies. I guess we girls will have to get together & plan some things for the winter season. So boys, polish those manners & those brogans. We've got matchmaking to do.
~Miss Patti
The belle I am "kissing in
The belle I am "kissing in the tree" with is Melissa. Glory glory, joyful joyful. Them single days is gone with the wind. She lives here in Augusta now which is sweet but she works a night shift at the moment.
Your mention of the hay rides, copperhead Anne(love that nick name) brings back lovely memories of highschool. Late October in the cool evenings in the Red River Valley of northern Texas and riding with my back to a loft of golden hay. All that was on my mind was summoning up the guts to put my arm around the girl who sat by me in science class and who now sat by me on a bouncy wagon. The whipper wills up in the dog wood and oak trees cheered me on. I have some happy memories from the sweet southern nights. Gone with the wind are those two note songs of the whipper will, the smell of the sturdy hay, and thatOctober evening that this Southron boy did manage to find the courage.
women reenactor's personal ad
What is all this talk about southern women being so much better than our home grown northern beauties.
An example of a Southern Belle’s personal ad:
A true Scarlet O'Hara Southern Belle seeks tall, dark confederate reenactor.
* enjoys flirting, swooning, and being pampered
* has completed finishing school and comes with a Nanny
* can entertain, plan a social, boss the house servants
and can manipulate others’ lives.
An example of a Northern Lady’s personal ad:
A true Harriet Beecher Stowe Northern Lady seeks a partner to share life’s adventures.
* is independent, educated, assertive, and resilient
* can bring home the bacon and cook it too!
* timid or domineering men need not reply.
Pvt/Lt Craig Young
3rd Maine, company A
"I ain't as good as I once was. But I'm as good once as I ever was. I used to be Hell on wheels Back when I was younger man. Now my body says 'You can't do this boy' But my pride says 'Oh, yes you can."
Another problem
I don't have the statistics to prove this but another problem Miss Patti is that it seems the single men are mostly in their teens and twenties and the ladies are, well, wiser, if you will. :) 20 to 2 may be a minor issue.
Hey Craig, I love strong and independant women. But you know the problem with them is? They are strong! And independant!
Just can't win...
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Michael Johnson
I don't think we could do it
I don't think we could do it singles only though. If we did we'd get about 30 men & 2-3 ladies.
And you think Annie would have a problem with this?
I hope this don't offend
I hope this don't offend anybody. All in good fun, right Craig?
An example of a Southern Belle’s personal ad:
A true Rose O Neil Southern fire heart seeks any man who can play the banjo or can share his whiskey.
* enjoys moonlit walks on the Southern coast, cuddeling on a front porch Saturday night, and hunting long side her hubby
* has completed Ole Miss or A&M and keeps the sunny south sunny
* can entertain, have a heliva party, dance, sing, tells you like it is, and has a smile that could melt even a yankee.
An example of a Northern Lady’s personal ad:
A true crazy Mary Todd Lincoln Northern Lady seeks a partner to plow the drive way in the winter and have a man to complain to.
* can gossip and manipulate any subject or fact, can gain a little weight to keep a hubby cozy in the winter, can roast while never minding the eight hundred dollar a month heating fuel bill, and can pay seven dollars for a pack of cigarettes.
* can bring home a eternity's worth of coffee colodas and donuts from one of Maine's ten thousand Dunkin Donuts.
* sweet men need not apply.
Pvt Zac
Now behave boys...
Mike your point is very well made & taken. That is the trouble we've found. Younger ladies don't usually get into re-enacting unless they're "attached" in some way. Their beau is a soldier or their father re-enacts & is rather strict with a large cache of weapons...
I've been approached on many occasions for advice in match making matters but I've found its been mostly younger men looking for elligable ladies. Now I'm in search of an older man for a lady. Not an easy task. They're as scarce as hens teeth. But Zac & Craig comparing northern ladies to southern ladies...I understand where you're coming from. It's very sweet for you to stand up for the northern ladies Craig. And Zac, remember that Mary Todd was southern before she married ol' Abe. The case seems to still be one of where do singles meet? Especially ones with such specialized hobbies as ours. We as a community need to try & develope more oppurtunities for singles to get togther.
~Miss Patti
"Where do singles meet"?
"where do singles meet?"
I've been single a while, and I've done a fair share of "dating" in that time. I could talk your ear off about it.
But, some simple common sense rules from my experience:
1. Get out there! You aren't going to meet anyone if you don't go where people are.
2. Volunteer organizations - there are hundreds of them in your community - they need help and give you an excellent chance to do good works - hang with a "high-quality" compassionate set of folks, and "get you out of your own head", which is a terrible place to be if you want to convey a good impression. And, you are likely to meet people - if not a life long companion - certainly some good friends!
You don't know where you will meet Mr. or Mis right. But you need to get out there and be in a healthy state of mind in order to allow it to happen.
3. Date for dating's sake.
When I started to date I would have all these worries and expectations before the date started - in my mind I'd married, had kids and divorced this person before we even shared coffee. Expectations will KILL any possibility for romance. When you date the purpose is not to get married and raise yours and her existing kids -it is to HAVE FUN. A successful date is when you do something enjoyable and enjoy life.
Once I changed my mindset to concentrating on the date, rather than my expectations for the other person, I started to really enjoy dating. I was even told by several people that I was a "really good date"!
Finally: When you are ready, the right person will appear.
So, matchmakers and prospective matches - quckerbichin and start yer hitchin'!
My take...
I used to be in the Society for Creative Anachronism, which is a GREAT place to meet single people! I mean you go off to the BIG event in western Pennsylvania for two weeks called Pennsic and you have hundreds of unattached women running around living out their Fantasies. It's HEAVEN for a young guy looking for senseless physical attention, or even a life mate! Moving from that environment to Civil War reenacting is quite a shock! Unfortunately many women (even other reenactors in the SCA) don't find much appealing in the Civil War time period. So I just kind of take it for granted that I'm not going to be finding many dance partners in this hobby. I'd LOVE to, but it's most likely NEVER gonna happen.
Major Eric R. Reeder
CSO, 1st Division ANV, Staff
Liberty Hill Signals
2nd Lt Eric R. Reeder United States Army Corps of Topographic Engineers "Hawks and Eagles fly like Doves"
Civil war dating
Thank you all for such great advice. I have the best of both worlds. I was born and 1/2 raised in the North,just like good old Northern yeast bread 1/2 raised befor you punch it down. Then as a young lady went South and was schooled by the military. Years being married to a special warfare man. I can bake the beanhole beans and I know 100 ways to make corn bread and hamhocks and pinto beans. I am really a true find for the mature reenactor and I guess I have to start thinking that way. I know most of the Southern General to the point I know how many horses were short out from undreneath them and I know the horses names even could cook their favorite meals like Good Ole Fightin Joe Wheelers corn bread or Jeff Davis's family ladies cakes. Hard to think about the leader of the South eaten Ladies cakes but her loved them. Ok I said most. And lets face it not only can I stich a button on I can whip up a parade jacket while I am cooking the turkey for the Brits. Pattie just had to add that for you. But thanks guys for all the advice and help it is all wise and thought out and I enjoy it. Never seen a subject on here get so many great post. Oh well long live the Nancy Hearts. CopperHeadAnnie
Wow...
You sound like the perfect woman!
Major Eric R. Reeder
CSO, 1st Division ANV, Staff
Liberty Hill Signals
2nd Lt Eric R. Reeder United States Army Corps of Topographic Engineers "Hawks and Eagles fly like Doves"
Major Reeder I will be
Major Reeder I will be pleased to dance with you. CopperHeadAnnie
Copperhead has a DATE
CopperHeadAnnie has a date!!!!Ok pass some luck my way. I have a date. Where in Maine do you find a man from Texas who wants to wear the "Gray" well I did so luck is in the air. This is a blind date from a on line dating sight!!!!! So we will find out if he knows the difference between a flask and a flank. To arms to arms fly high the Bonnie Blue and long live the Nacy Harts. CopperHeadAnnie PS Patti he may even know all the verses of Dixie.
Well now...
...if he's all that and wears UDT shorts, you'll be in Heaven!!!
AAR Requested
Actually Annie, an After Action Report will be required! We want to make sure this fella is good enough for you and all. :)
Have fun! But not too much fun. ;) Stay safe! Best wishes and all that.
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Michael Johnson
copperhead's date
Ok Mark dig this he is a professional diver lololol UDT shorts and all. And he asked me tonight if I know how to 2 step and do the Texas swing. Then he tells me about his black powder gun. I thought for a moment that it is all a set up lololol If he shows up in an F150 with a racoon bone hanging from the rear view mirror I will know Patti has put him up to it. Ok you will all recieve a full damage report on Saturday. CopperHeadAnnie
What do you need a dating serviec for...
Have fun!
After action Report
All is well along the Penobscott tonight. All went well with the date. We are heading out bird hunting this coming week end may even go blood worm digging tomorrow what a date lolololol CopperHeadAnnie
Sorry AAR rejected
:) It's incomplete Annie :)
I'm glad you had a nice time and the fact that you are planning a bird hunt or blood worm digging together says alot. It tells me that you at least share interests or that he was interesting enough for you to try something new.
But you left out the most important details. Was he a gentleman when you wanted him to be? Was he funny when he needed to be? Is he well read in the areas of importance to you? Did he order his dinner decisively?
Looking forward to a more complete report... :)
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Michael Johnson
Yeah Laurie!
Yeah Laurie!
Details!! Did he show up in his finest grey jean wool? Do you think he'll enlist for the Cause?
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